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Post by Lady Idril on Jul 19, 2006 18:50:23 GMT -5
Ark that was bad! But kinda funny..
I liked the Jack/Elizabeth curiosity thing, it was kinda funny, although I couldn't understand what they were getting at, really. I think I just need to see it again. Gosh, I cannot wait until somebody finally writes a transcript!
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Post by Lady Idril on Jul 27, 2006 18:25:48 GMT -5
Well I just saw it again, and I have to say I think it was more disgusting this time around. But it was still amazing. And I know this doesn't really fall under the category of the "Will/Elizabeth/Jack triangle", but I really think Tia Dalma brought Barbossa back from the dead. In the scene when they first go to see her and they give her Jack the Monkey, you see her walk into the other room and you see Jack the Monkey crawling around a man's feet, like the man is lying down. I think he was still dead. Anyway! I strongly believe Jack doesn't have a care in the world for Elizabeth, it's just her having a strange fancy for him. He wants a lot of things: Davy's heart, the Pearl...rum...probably the whereabouts of the Kracken so he can run from it. But I don't think Lizzy is high on that list. Especially when he is telling Will about the chest and he says "Your dotty belle, ol' whats-her-face", and when Will comes in and she runs to him, you see Norrington look a little unhappy, but Jack just looks impatient. I think in the end, also, Will senses that there's something Elizabeth isn't telling him. When he says "If there was anything that could be done...Elizabeth" his tone sounds expectant, I think. But perhaps it's just me. I think that's about it.. I'm done now.
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Post by Lady Idril on Jul 27, 2006 18:56:44 GMT -5
K, this kinda proves my opinion to be quite wrong. Darn it. - - - - - - - - source. Originally posted on Keep To The Code by Mr Ted Elliot himself. The reason we included the "Why is the rum always gone?" line was not just as a callback to the first movie; it was intended to remind audiences of the specific circumstances that it referenced, and so act as a cue to what Jack had on his mind: the woman who he was first attracted to and then infuriated with (or: the woman who Jack never would have been infuriated with if he had not been attracted to). So, the deal with compass: Jack simultaneously wanted Elizabeth and wanted to be as far from Elizabeth as possible. Whichever of those he wanted most would cause him to immediately want the other more ... so the compass would not settle, swinging between "Port Royal" and "antipode of Port Royal" (which is sort-of-but-not-quite Singapore, btw). (There was much debate about whether, in the first scene aboard the Pearl, to show the compass pointing in a specific direction and have Jack set course in the opposite direction, or to show it as it is in the movie. I think the first would have made it more clear to the audience that something weird was going on with Jack ("he's not going where the compass points? What's up with that?"), but the second is actually more demonstrative of his emotional state)(at least, that was the theory). And, as long as I'm breaking silence on the compass, let me just say: there's no transference. If it points to a waffle, it's not pointing to the waffle because you're hungry or because you really want to be Belgian or something; it points to the waffle 'cause what you want most is that waffle. Of course, if you've been hungry for a while, anticipating the most delicious meal you could ever imagine, and for some reason you couldn't partake of that meal, and then you found yourself in the presence of a very interesting waffle ... well, that doesn't mean that you suddenly think the aforementioned meal would not be delicious. It just means that, right then, that waffle seems pretty tempting. Does that make you a terrible person? - - - - Ted also apparently posted on Keep To The Code saying he didn't know where the idea came from that the compass points to "your hearts desire". He says it only points to what you want at that moment. Probably what you're thinking about at that given moment.
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Post by Meluivan Indil on Jul 27, 2006 23:35:31 GMT -5
Well, that pretty much confirms most of my suspicions, even though I was hoping I was wrong. My lord, what is this gonna mean for poor Will? I guess it all depends on what Elizabeth really wants.
Man they are all doomed.
M.
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Post by Lady Idril on Jul 28, 2006 1:12:15 GMT -5
Maybe Tia Dalma put some freak spell on everybody. Maybe they'll wake up and it'll all have been a dream. lol. I really want to give Will a hug right now. *dodges glare from M* That poor man is just not getting enough credit anymore. I'm just not understanding how Elizabeth ran around in the first movie, screaming about Will and how she loved him, and now we're seriously supposed to believe she's just changing her mind? Come now! [EDIT] The script, the script! Typed up by a lovely mate on The PotC Boards, from memory. But it's something! The Script[/EDIT]
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Post by Meluivan Indil on Jul 28, 2006 10:29:52 GMT -5
OMG kiss that person Idril. Must read ten million times.
M.
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Post by Lady Idril on Jul 28, 2006 17:45:30 GMT -5
I agree. I already read it through once last night. There were some really classic lines in that movie. I loved every exchange between Pintel and Ragetti.
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